Hiromi Ito and Naomoto Naomi's friendship "40 years after eating and talking. I have seen all divorce, child -rearing, and nursing care."

Hiromi Ito (right) and Naomi Emoto (left) (photographed: Sadaya Okochi)

Poet, who has put his focus in Kumamoto and the United States, raising children, nursing care, and working around, always stays at his best friend's cooking research house when he comes to Tokyo.Hiromi Ito, Naomoto Edomoto, the two are the same age."Neko -chan" and "Hiromi -chan", 40 years of calling (configuration = Yu Tanaka -Yui = Sadaya Oguchi)* * * * * ◆ A long phone call is like a therapy, Hello Ito.Oyomoto O, Hiromi -chan.Kumamoto's rain was okay? Ito Yeah, the plane flew as scheduled.But this time I couldn't arrange the usual answering machine.Emoto Yeah, are they spending time with only four?I'm going home tomorrow morning, so I'll stay at a hotel in Haneda tonight.Emoto Hoi.Whether you stay or go home, it's okay because you don't have anything special.Ito: From the house in front of me, when I came to Tokyo, I started to stay with Neko -chan.Emoto: I went to play quite a bit when Hiromi was in the United States.

Ito: I first met when I was 23 years old.There is a performance of modern music at Shiba's Zojoji Temple.Emoto: I was a play, and Hiromi was a poet.At that time, Hiromi -chan came with a man and said, "I'm getting married," but after a short time, I was divorced.(Laughs) Ito broke up in a month.(Laughs) There were many cat pottery on the branch shelf."It was a wedding gift, but I don't use it anymore."Ito Neko lived with a man in a national.I was a little enviable.Even though it is poor, it looks free and fashionable.I have lived together since I was a former student.In the 70's, it was the tail of the hippie culture.Ito: At that time, I went to see the play together, and sometimes I met and plumped.Emoto: So I entered the rolling theater (troupe).Ito: The houses that have moved by each other and the successive men know everything.When I was 26, I went to Poland to Poland, came back, gave birth to Kumamoto, and gave birth again.During that time, Neko -chan ... I was 32 years old and left the man and had no home, and the theater company was dissolved.Then I started cooking.Sometimes there was no sound for a year with Hiromi -chan.Ito was there.I was satisfied with talking with my husband and being a child.When it was about 35, it didn't work, and I was terrible because of my antidepressants.The people around me said, "I may die soon."Emoto 30 years ago?I didn't expect to die.Ito: At that time, I had a family, but I was alone.So I rely on Neko.I have literally sparked it.I've been nearby.Emoto I often talked on the phone.Ito At that time, there was no SNS or email, you just called.Emoto: I was cooking for food, and Hiromi -chan had her family eating every day.When I talked about food, I was doing it all the time.In Kumamoto Ito and Tokyo, I spoke 6 hours to see how agar, gelatin and whitened flour and junsai were different, what to say, what to say.If it was "delicious," you can talk to others, but talking to Neko will deepen to the philosophy and cultural anthropology.Because it was interesting, I exchanged it with fax and summarized it in "What is it?" (Chuko Bunko).It's just a mess of life, so it's pretty good.The exchange was therapy.Emoto Yeah, I wrote a lot of bad things.(smile)